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I edited [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytolacca_americana the Wikipedia article] for style. It still needs work, in case anybody wants to be useful today. It would also be highly useful to link in some of the web articles on its poisons and cooking that I looked at before cooking it.
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May 26:
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It’s been two days now, with no ill effects. I found a little more and boiled it twice. I intend to try frying it now.
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The best reading on Pokeweed is [http://www.eattheweeds.com/can-be-deadly-but-oh-so-delicious-pokeweed-2/ “Can Be Deadly But Oh So Delicious: Poke weed”] from around 2013. The comments are an important part of it and of very high quality, though part of that is that I’ve been reading Twitter a lot, where the comments are deplorable. Here’s a highly useful comment:
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1. Does boiling pokeweed remove all the vitamins? That’s OK. I can take vitamin pills. I’m just wondering about water solubles vitamins like vitamin C. The good taste remains.
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2. Boiling does remove the red color of some of even my young stalks, and it does remove the foul odor, which is noticeable and actually good as an identifier of the raw plant but intensifies during cooking. Is the poison in the red and foul-smelling?
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3. What chemical test could I do to identify whether the poison or poisons remains? Wikipedia is confused about what poisons there may be. Expert editing would help there.
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4. Re matters 2 and 3, I am thinking of eating the mature plant. It is 50 times as big, and is there all summer. Probably most of it is just too tough, but that is easy to ascertain. No doubt it also contains more poison. The question, though, is whether boiling twice as much will remove the extra poison. Probably I will just have to cautiously experiment, with small dose and lots of boiling at first.
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For chemical analysis, the roots might be useful, as more concentrated. It’s said that they’re so dangerous you shouldn’t handle them without gloves.
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September 6. In August, I tried breaking off the new growth, even with the start of the seeds forming, and found that it was very good and safe, with no more boiling than before. I think the main problem is that often even the new growth has white pith in the stalks that makes it too tough to eat. I suspect that even the big leaves are safe (with enough boiling), just, perhaps, too tough– I haven’t tried them. I have an idea for a way to experiment that is quicker and safer than gradual expansion of what one eats and how short the cooking could be: biological testing. If the poison affects minnow and crayfish– a big if– I could try putting the substance to be tested in with creatures collected from the local creek.
  
  
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April 14, 2021: pokeweed shoots were an inch out of the ground.
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May 5: We ate big shoots about a foot long and half an inch wide. They looked like they had white pith, but they were tender throughout. Cooked to rather mushy, but didn't cause any indigestion. I am wondering whether it is good to cut big shoots so as to provoke new tender shoots. The alternative is to let them grow big and then harvest leaves and new branchlets.
  
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After cooking. The red has mostly disappeared. So has the unpleasant and distinctive smell, useful in identifying the plant. We used two changes of water, and pretty long boiling (20 minutes each time?). Delicious with salt. Probably ever better with butter and salt too. This is the half we left for the next day, since my wife feared becoming a widow. I was cautious. I only offered them to the rest of the family and the Connell girls an hour after Benjamin and I tried them.
 
  
I edited [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytolacca_americana the Wikipedia article] for style. It still needs work, in case anybody wants to be useful today. It would also be highly useful to link in some of the web articles on its poisons and cooking that I looked at before cooking it.
 
  
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<html><img src="  https://www.rasmusen.org/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/pokeweed-cooked-300x169.jpg    " width="120" align=right size-full wp-image-142" /></html>
  
May 26:
 
It’s been two days now, with no ill effects. I found a little more and boiled it twice. I intend to try frying it now.
 
  
The best reading on Pokeweed is [http://www.eattheweeds.com/can-be-deadly-but-oh-so-delicious-pokeweed-2/ “Can Be Deadly But Oh So Delicious: Poke weed”] from around 2013. The comments are an important part of it and of very high quality, though part of that is that I’ve been reading Twitter a lot, where the comments are deplorable. Here’s a highly useful comment:
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After cooking. The red has mostly disappeared. So has the unpleasant and distinctive smell, useful in identifying the plant. We used two changes of water, and pretty long boiling (20 minutes each time?). Delicious with salt. Probably ever better with butter and salt too. This is the half we left for the next day, since my wife feared becoming a widow. I was cautious. I only offered them to the rest of the family and the Connell girls an hour after Benjamin and I tried them.

Revision as of 09:28, 18 May 2022


2020. I had never tried pokeweed before. It is easily identifiable late in the summer, by its huge size (five feet+) and bright blue berries. At that time, though, it’s not good eating. In fact, the berries and roots are always deadly, and the various parts get worse over the summer. The books say to eat the young shoots in the springtime. The problem is, young shoots aren’t so easily identified. But I remembered where it was growning in our yard last fall, and it’s a perennial, so this year I was confident as to which shoots were poke.

Before cooking. Note that the red color is a bad sign. Even some very young shoots were read, though, so I decided to chance it. The biggest of these shoots is perhaps too big.


I edited the Wikipedia article for style. It still needs work, in case anybody wants to be useful today. It would also be highly useful to link in some of the web articles on its poisons and cooking that I looked at before cooking it.


May 26: It’s been two days now, with no ill effects. I found a little more and boiled it twice. I intend to try frying it now.

The best reading on Pokeweed is “Can Be Deadly But Oh So Delicious: Poke weed” from around 2013. The comments are an important part of it and of very high quality, though part of that is that I’ve been reading Twitter a lot, where the comments are deplorable. Here’s a highly useful comment:



Questions:

1. Does boiling pokeweed remove all the vitamins? That’s OK. I can take vitamin pills. I’m just wondering about water solubles vitamins like vitamin C. The good taste remains.

2. Boiling does remove the red color of some of even my young stalks, and it does remove the foul odor, which is noticeable and actually good as an identifier of the raw plant but intensifies during cooking. Is the poison in the red and foul-smelling?

3. What chemical test could I do to identify whether the poison or poisons remains? Wikipedia is confused about what poisons there may be. Expert editing would help there.

4. Re matters 2 and 3, I am thinking of eating the mature plant. It is 50 times as big, and is there all summer. Probably most of it is just too tough, but that is easy to ascertain. No doubt it also contains more poison. The question, though, is whether boiling twice as much will remove the extra poison. Probably I will just have to cautiously experiment, with small dose and lots of boiling at first.

For chemical analysis, the roots might be useful, as more concentrated. It’s said that they’re so dangerous you shouldn’t handle them without gloves.


September 6. In August, I tried breaking off the new growth, even with the start of the seeds forming, and found that it was very good and safe, with no more boiling than before. I think the main problem is that often even the new growth has white pith in the stalks that makes it too tough to eat. I suspect that even the big leaves are safe (with enough boiling), just, perhaps, too tough– I haven’t tried them. I have an idea for a way to experiment that is quicker and safer than gradual expansion of what one eats and how short the cooking could be: biological testing. If the poison affects minnow and crayfish– a big if– I could try putting the substance to be tested in with creatures collected from the local creek.


April 14, 2021: pokeweed shoots were an inch out of the ground. May 5: We ate big shoots about a foot long and half an inch wide. They looked like they had white pith, but they were tender throughout. Cooked to rather mushy, but didn't cause any indigestion. I am wondering whether it is good to cut big shoots so as to provoke new tender shoots. The alternative is to let them grow big and then harvest leaves and new branchlets.




After cooking. The red has mostly disappeared. So has the unpleasant and distinctive smell, useful in identifying the plant. We used two changes of water, and pretty long boiling (20 minutes each time?). Delicious with salt. Probably ever better with butter and salt too. This is the half we left for the next day, since my wife feared becoming a widow. I was cautious. I only offered them to the rest of the family and the Connell girls an hour after Benjamin and I tried them.