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*[https://dana.org/article/pretending-that-intelligence-doesnt-matter/ ] has a  few points of interest:
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*[http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/ La Griffe du Lion] essays.
  
"Siblings differ among themselves by an average of 12 IQ points; strangers differ by an average of 17 IQ points."
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*[https://www.takimag.com/article/mind-the-gap/ "Mind the Gap,"] Steve Sailer (2023), new study.
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::"Progressives have this insane tendency to assume that if it really is true that blacks aren’t as smart as whites on average, then the only logical thing to do would be to murder all of our fellow black citizens in Treblinka-style death camps. Why? Because, they apparently reason, only Nazis, as they’ve so often said, think blacks have lower mean IQs, so if it turns out that the IQ Nazis are right, well, that means Hitler should be our role model.
  
There is no persuasive evidence that the IQ bell curves for different racial-ethnic groups are converging over time, and they differ as much when children leave high school as when they enter kindergarten.
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:Or something. You can never quite get liberals to articulate why they are convinced it would be the end of the world if there are racial differences in intelligence, other than that’s the ditch they’ve decided to die in and it would be embarrassing for them to turn out to be wrong."
  
A large, longitudinal study of ex-servicemen in Australia found that safe driving relates to IQ level. Rates of death from motor vehicle accidents doubled and then tripled across three ranges of normal IQ: In the 100-115 IQ range, there were 51 deaths per 10,000 men; at IQ 85-100, there were 92 deaths; and at IQ 80-85, there were 147 deaths.
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*[https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09515089.2019.1697803 Nathan Cofnas] (2020) is a recent discussion of group differences in IQ.  
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:"The adult Black–White IQ gap has remained stubbornly constant at approximately one standard deviation (15 IQ points) among cohorts born since around 1970 (Murray, 2007).  
  
The shared effects of a family environment on intelligence disappear with age. ...The heritability of intelligence fairly rapidly becomes the dominant influence, rising from 40 percent of the explanation of differences in IQ scores in the pre-school years, to 60 percent by adolescence, to 80 percent in old age.
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:Dickens and Flynn (2006, Figure 3) indicate that, in 2002, the Black–White IQ gap in among 20-year-olds was approximately one standard deviation, or 15 points. Nisbett (2017) writes that “Dickens and Flynn found [the Black–White gap in IQ to be] around 9.5 points,” but this is only the gap if we include children (as R. Nisbett confirmed in a personal communication, December 24, 2018). ... Frisby and Beaujean (2015, Table 8) find a Black–White IQ gap of 1.16 standard deviations among a population-representative sample of adults used to norm the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale IV in 2007. Intensive interventions can raise IQ substantially during childhood when the heritability of IQ is low. But despite some misleading claims about the success of early intervention programs, gains tend to dissolve by late adolescence or early adulthood (Baumeister & Bacharach, 2000; Lipsey, Farran, & Durkin, 2018; Protzko, 2015). Adoption by white families – one of the most extreme interventions possible – has virtually no effect on the IQ of black adoptees by adulthood. Black children adopted by middle- and upper-middle-class white families in Minnesota obtained IQ scores at age 17 that were roughly identical to the African American average. Adoptees with one black biological parent obtained IQ scores that were intermediate between the black and white means (Loehlin, 2000, Table 9.3).2
  
Studies of children who have become siblings through adoption illustrate this counterintuitive discovery. They become less like one another as they get older, but more like their biological parents and biological siblings, whom they have never met. By adolescence, adopted siblings tend to be no more alike in IQ than complete strangers. On the other hand, identical twins reared apart are almost as similar as identical twins reared together and considerably more similar than fraternal twins reared together.
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:Environmentalists never predicted that the Black–White IQ gap would, after reaching one standard deviation, remain impervious to early education, adoption, massive improvements in the socioeconomic status of Blacks, and the (apparent) waning of overt racism and discrimination.
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:Unlike heritability studies, GWAS can uncover specific genetic variants – or single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) – associated with IQ. In just the last couple years, GWAS has identified hundreds of such SNPs (Davies et al., 2018; Savage et al., 2018; Sniekers et al., 2017), which together explain around 11% of the variance in IQ (Allegrini et al., 2019).
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*[https://dana.org/article/pretending-that-intelligence-doesnt-matter/ Linda  Gottfredson (2000)] has a  few points of interest:
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"Siblings differ among themselves by an average of 12 IQ points; strangers differ by an average of 17 IQ points."
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:There is no persuasive evidence that the IQ bell curves for different racial-ethnic groups are converging over time, and they differ as much when children leave high school as when they enter kindergarten.
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:A large, longitudinal study of ex-servicemen in Australia found that safe driving relates to IQ level. Rates of death from motor vehicle accidents doubled and then tripled across three ranges of normal IQ: In the 100-115 IQ range, there were 51 deaths per 10,000 men; at IQ 85-100, there were 92 deaths; and at IQ 80-85, there were 147 deaths.
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:The shared effects of a family environment on intelligence disappear with age. ...The heritability of intelligence fairly rapidly becomes the dominant influence, rising from 40 percent of the explanation of differences in IQ scores in the pre-school years, to 60 percent by adolescence, to 80 percent in old age.
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:Studies of children who have become siblings through adoption illustrate this counterintuitive discovery. They become less like one another as they get older, but more like their biological parents and biological siblings, whom they have never met. By adolescence, adopted siblings tend to be no more alike in IQ than complete strangers. On the other hand, identical twins reared apart are almost as similar as identical twins reared together and considerably more similar than fraternal twins reared together.
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:Special interventions to raise low IQ’s are somewhat successful with young children, but the effects of these interventions almost always fade out as children approach early adolescence.
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*[https://www-nature-com.proxyiub.uits.iu.edu/articles/nrg.2017.104.pdf "The new genetics of intelligence", Nature Reviews]
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Robert Plomin1 and Sophie von Stumm (2018). Mainly on DNA correlations with intelligence, but has lots of general references. They assess the twin-and-relative studies estimate of how much of variance is explained by genetics as .50. Gene scores can explain .10, about 20% of the genetic component.
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:"After adolescence, the effect of shared
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family environmental influence on intelligence is negligible, which means that family environments have little effect on individual differences in the long run"
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:"results for intelligence using the IQ2 GWAS: the negative genetic correlation
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with schizophrenia (−0.20) and the positive genetic
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correlations with height (0.10) and autism (0.21)33. The
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same LD score regression analysis33 found that intelligence significantly correlated genetically with many
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other traits, including Alzheimer disease (−0.36),
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smoking cessation (−0.32), intracranial volume (0.29),
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head circumference in infancy (0.28), depressive symptoms (−0.27), attention-­deficit–hyperactivity disorder
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(−0.27), having ever smoked (−0.23), longevity (0.22)
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and, of course, years of education (0.70)."
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==Age==
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*[https://twitter.com/lefineder/status/1666479344007479296 Twitter thread] on small decline with age in longitudinal studies--it's mostly a cross-section artifact of the Flynn Effect."Cognitive ability declined on average by −0.05 SD between ages 50–70 years, then −0.28 SD from 70–85 years."
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==Animals==
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*[https://twitter.com/BronskiJoseph/status/1693653408459198783 Ape IQ], a g factor in various tasks.
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryon%27s_Rat_Experiment Tryon Rat Breeding] (1940). It only took about three generations and then they didn't get any smarter. A survey of the literature that followed is [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4523721/ "Gene-environment interaction in programming hippocampal plasticity: focus on adult neurogenesis,"]Muriel Koehl,which talks about introducing environmental differences too.
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*[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016028961630023X?via%3Dihub Arden, R., & Adams, M. J. (2016). A general intelligence factor in dogs.] ''Intelligence'', 55, 79–85. doi:10.1016/j.intell.2016.01.008.
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[[File:Sophie Tangled up,jpg.jpg|thumb]]See
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*[https://twitter.com/notcomplex_/status/1746286184978944221/photo/1 Bar graph of IQ of different breeds]
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==History==
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*[https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1756312262631961059  Iodine raised IQ in America by 3 points in 1920's]
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==IQ across Countries==
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*A good [https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1694794239605866923 twitter thread (2023)] by Cremieux trying to cross-validate as well as giving a table of countries from other people's work.
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==Ideas on IQ==
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* If 95% of a population are dull, and 5% are brilliant, and IQ is genetic, then  very  likely most brilliant people have dull parents.  .95*.1  = .095, and .05*.8 = .040.

Revision as of 06:08, 21 March 2024

Stylized Facts

"Progressives have this insane tendency to assume that if it really is true that blacks aren’t as smart as whites on average, then the only logical thing to do would be to murder all of our fellow black citizens in Treblinka-style death camps. Why? Because, they apparently reason, only Nazis, as they’ve so often said, think blacks have lower mean IQs, so if it turns out that the IQ Nazis are right, well, that means Hitler should be our role model.
Or something. You can never quite get liberals to articulate why they are convinced it would be the end of the world if there are racial differences in intelligence, other than that’s the ditch they’ve decided to die in and it would be embarrassing for them to turn out to be wrong."
  • Nathan Cofnas (2020) is a recent discussion of group differences in IQ.
"The adult Black–White IQ gap has remained stubbornly constant at approximately one standard deviation (15 IQ points) among cohorts born since around 1970 (Murray, 2007).
Dickens and Flynn (2006, Figure 3) indicate that, in 2002, the Black–White IQ gap in among 20-year-olds was approximately one standard deviation, or 15 points. Nisbett (2017) writes that “Dickens and Flynn found [the Black–White gap in IQ to be] around 9.5 points,” but this is only the gap if we include children (as R. Nisbett confirmed in a personal communication, December 24, 2018). ... Frisby and Beaujean (2015, Table 8) find a Black–White IQ gap of 1.16 standard deviations among a population-representative sample of adults used to norm the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale IV in 2007. Intensive interventions can raise IQ substantially during childhood when the heritability of IQ is low. But despite some misleading claims about the success of early intervention programs, gains tend to dissolve by late adolescence or early adulthood (Baumeister & Bacharach, 2000; Lipsey, Farran, & Durkin, 2018; Protzko, 2015). Adoption by white families – one of the most extreme interventions possible – has virtually no effect on the IQ of black adoptees by adulthood. Black children adopted by middle- and upper-middle-class white families in Minnesota obtained IQ scores at age 17 that were roughly identical to the African American average. Adoptees with one black biological parent obtained IQ scores that were intermediate between the black and white means (Loehlin, 2000, Table 9.3).2
Environmentalists never predicted that the Black–White IQ gap would, after reaching one standard deviation, remain impervious to early education, adoption, massive improvements in the socioeconomic status of Blacks, and the (apparent) waning of overt racism and discrimination.
Unlike heritability studies, GWAS can uncover specific genetic variants – or single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) – associated with IQ. In just the last couple years, GWAS has identified hundreds of such SNPs (Davies et al., 2018; Savage et al., 2018; Sniekers et al., 2017), which together explain around 11% of the variance in IQ (Allegrini et al., 2019).

"Siblings differ among themselves by an average of 12 IQ points; strangers differ by an average of 17 IQ points."

There is no persuasive evidence that the IQ bell curves for different racial-ethnic groups are converging over time, and they differ as much when children leave high school as when they enter kindergarten.
A large, longitudinal study of ex-servicemen in Australia found that safe driving relates to IQ level. Rates of death from motor vehicle accidents doubled and then tripled across three ranges of normal IQ: In the 100-115 IQ range, there were 51 deaths per 10,000 men; at IQ 85-100, there were 92 deaths; and at IQ 80-85, there were 147 deaths.
The shared effects of a family environment on intelligence disappear with age. ...The heritability of intelligence fairly rapidly becomes the dominant influence, rising from 40 percent of the explanation of differences in IQ scores in the pre-school years, to 60 percent by adolescence, to 80 percent in old age.
Studies of children who have become siblings through adoption illustrate this counterintuitive discovery. They become less like one another as they get older, but more like their biological parents and biological siblings, whom they have never met. By adolescence, adopted siblings tend to be no more alike in IQ than complete strangers. On the other hand, identical twins reared apart are almost as similar as identical twins reared together and considerably more similar than fraternal twins reared together.
Special interventions to raise low IQ’s are somewhat successful with young children, but the effects of these interventions almost always fade out as children approach early adolescence.

Robert Plomin1 and Sophie von Stumm (2018). Mainly on DNA correlations with intelligence, but has lots of general references. They assess the twin-and-relative studies estimate of how much of variance is explained by genetics as .50. Gene scores can explain .10, about 20% of the genetic component.

"After adolescence, the effect of shared

family environmental influence on intelligence is negligible, which means that family environments have little effect on individual differences in the long run"

"results for intelligence using the IQ2 GWAS: the negative genetic correlation

with schizophrenia (−0.20) and the positive genetic correlations with height (0.10) and autism (0.21)33. The same LD score regression analysis33 found that intelligence significantly correlated genetically with many other traits, including Alzheimer disease (−0.36), smoking cessation (−0.32), intracranial volume (0.29), head circumference in infancy (0.28), depressive symptoms (−0.27), attention-­deficit–hyperactivity disorder (−0.27), having ever smoked (−0.23), longevity (0.22) and, of course, years of education (0.70)."

Age

  • Twitter thread on small decline with age in longitudinal studies--it's mostly a cross-section artifact of the Flynn Effect."Cognitive ability declined on average by −0.05 SD between ages 50–70 years, then −0.28 SD from 70–85 years."

Animals

  • Ape IQ, a g factor in various tasks.
Sophie Tangled up,jpg.jpg

See

History

IQ across Countries

  • A good twitter thread (2023) by Cremieux trying to cross-validate as well as giving a table of countries from other people's work.

Ideas on IQ

  • If 95% of a population are dull, and 5% are brilliant, and IQ is genetic, then very likely most brilliant people have dull parents. .95*.1 = .095, and .05*.8 = .040.